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4th Edition - Adoption Rate?

You can all go ahead thank me for not making up some wacky April Fool’s post. No, Days of Wonder has not gone out of business

4e_dmg_coverIt’s getting close, isn’t it? The time when 4th Edition D&D was just this fuzzy cloud of rumor and speculation has long passed, along with the ongoing stream of hints and clarifications. Word is that it’s off to the printers, and should be here soon. You can circle June 6th on your calendars as the date for the “big three”, the DMG, Player’s Handbook, and Monster Manual. For most people that is when the 4th Edition era begins.

You can pre-order from a lot of places, and there’s a “gift set” version that puts all three books in a slipcase, and it can be pre-ordered for about $63 on Amazon, $60 after a pre-order 5% discount (with free shipping), which is a pretty good deal, all in all. 4E will probably run for over a decade, and if you ignore the online content subscription and filler supplements, you’ll never get more enjoyment out of your hard-earned sixty clams.

But my pre-order is already in. So today’s musings are on the subject of adoption rates. How and when will people come on board with 4th Edition?

4e_ph_coverI’m of that age where it was a blurry transition from Basic/Expert to “Advanced” D&D, now retroactively called first edition. We thought it would be the only one. Second edition was much more of an edit-and-repackage deal, and came at a time when the game seemed to be waning with TSR’s fortunes, and the desktop publishing revolution of the 90’s was filling our world with an embarrassment of alternative RPG riches. (Most of which failed to survive to Y2k!) I was out of regular play at this time in my life, and eventually picked up the second edition core books to help run a convention tournament or something like that. They remain in mint condition in a box in my attic, no value except for kindling for a fire. Since first and second edition were mechanically the same, for most players it was no big deal.

Third edition was something different, of course. The big overhaul at the hands of Wizards, and by my reckoning a huge success. As with many other people I know, 3E was a reboot, a reason to get back into the game, and we were rewarded with a system that was more structurally sound that it had ever been. You can cry all you want about the waning RP aspects being the fault of more complete rule systems, but you don’t blame the tool for what a bad craftsman does with it. In the hands of a good DM, 3E was downright vorpal.

4e_mm_coverWhich means you could only call 3.5 “extra-vorpal”. Say 3.5 is to 3 as 2 was to 1 – an upgrade of twiddles, corrections, addendums, and balancing. Worth it, of course, but still we gripe over the financial speed bump of upgrading. These WoTC guys can’t hold a candle to the Warhammer franchise, though. Anyway, my final scorecard for this era of books was that I got the 3E PH almost right away, added the rest of the 3E core later in preparation for a DM stint that never came to pass, then added just the 3.5 PH to keep up with my duties as a player in a couple campaigns. Looking back, we’ve gotten a long and powerful run out of 3 and 3.5 and should lay them to rest with honor and praise.

So here comes 4E. All indications are that it’s a break and a big step forward: there’s no going on with your 3.5 books and trying to make it work. This time around it’s funny, because we all know the curmudgeons out there who will stand by their 1st edition over 3rd in love of the good old days (KarasDjun, we’re looking at you!), but you figure that most people who braved the new world of 3E are going to be all in on moving to 4E. Five years from now I expect there will be fewer holdovers playing 3E than there will be 1E!

I’m going all in early this time with the intent of running the flagship 4E campaign for my gamer group. They’re an eager bunch and I expect to see more than a couple other 4E books floating around the table pretty fast. Considering that we also have at least one healthy 3.5 campaign going on, I wonder if we’re going to whipsaw back and forth, or upgrade that one, too. In any case, we’ll laugh, we’ll cry, we’ll loot and plunder, sings songs of the brave, and get zapped by lightning bolts that arc around blind corners. If d21 made any money, I’d claim the 4E books as a deduction. Alas, we do it for the love of the game.

For the active D&D players out there right now, what’s your status in 4E? What will it do to your existing campaigns? Do you plan to start a new one? Who in your group is excited and who isn’t? Is June 6th going to be just another day (technically, “Friday”), or will it be the start of a new era for your D&D lifestyle? Oh, and if you’ve pre-ordered, where and for how much?

 

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  1. 1 Hunter Rose
    Posted on April 1st, 2008 at 10:29 am. About '4th Edition - Adoption Rate?'.

    I’ve pre-ordered from Amazon. There isn’t a FLGS near where I live to support :(

    The group I run is not switching to 4e for a good long while. After we finish Expedition to Castle Ravenloft, one of the players is going to take over GMing and run Star Wars Saga Edition: Dawn of Defiance. (4e lite, if you prefer).

    The group I play in is going to try 4e with one of the pre-written adventures that ship with the system before deciding whether or not to stick with it. One of our concerns is that we prefer a low-magic setting and 4e looks to be headed in a different direction.

    Having very much enjoyed d20 Modern and reading the new Star Wars edition, I am very hopeful for 4e and I am looking forward to giving it a spin.

  2. 2 ChrisMcD
    Posted on April 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 am. About '4th Edition - Adoption Rate?'.

    I am definatly getting 4th edition when it comes out. I was hoping to play the 4.0 demo at UBCon but I heard the demo had been cancelled.

  3. 3 Random
    Posted on April 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm. About '4th Edition - Adoption Rate?'.

    Those of you who’ve read my various criticisms of 4E may be surprised to hear that I’ve pre-ordered as well. (I couldn’t pass up the value of that Amazon Gift set.) I don’t expect a lot of conversions of 3.x campaigns to 4E. There are some people who will try to recreate their old characters in the new system to continue their campaigns. I am constantly amazed at how reluctant RPGers are to try new things. When someone says “I want to start a new campaign” their group often assumes it is in the same system that they have always played. This may be the biggest hurdle that 4E faces. They’ve changed the base of D&D to something entirely new and that may keep some groups from adopting it.

    I am looking forward to playing in a 4E campaign the same way I look forward to someday playing in a Spirit of the Century game, a Serenity game, or even a Call of Cthulhu or Ars Magica game. It will be something new and that’s usually enough to make it fun.

  4. 4 The Emperor
    Posted on April 2nd, 2008 at 4:36 pm. About '4th Edition - Adoption Rate?'.

    Regarding “bending” lighting bolts, I’ll have you know that lightning bolts can be created at maximum length at 5′ wide, or half length and 10′ wide. It didn’t bend, it was just extra wide!

  5. 5 KarasDjun
    Posted on April 2nd, 2008 at 4:52 pm. About '4th Edition - Adoption Rate?'.

    Speaking strictly as a consumer, I would not pre-order these books. I was burnt on 2nd edition and 3rd edition. My suggestion is to wait until the 5th printing before diving in. By then the glaring errors and inconsistencies should be completely fixed. If they only do an internet reprint with errata, then they are really not understanding how people play this game. I waited an entire year before ordering the 3.5 gift set and was very happy to have done so. No, I won’t be ordering 4E. I won’t be playing 4E. I’ve found the comfortable niche I want to stay in. There is no incentive there to entice me. I have a bookcase filled with games I haven’t played in years. Maybe it’s time….

  6. 6 itsman
    Posted on April 7th, 2008 at 5:19 am. About '4th Edition - Adoption Rate?'.

    I’m shocked to hear that perfectly sane gamers who saw the errata problems in the first couple of printings of 3.0 are lining up with their $$ for the likely sub-par product that will flood shelves this summer. I guess you guys indirectly make it possible for us ‘more demanding’ customers to get the product we want in the long run, so …um… thanks? I will wait for a later print run with all the fixings : ) I got to sit in on a 4thEd demo at the Gamestorm convention (Portland) last weekend. My first impression was that some of the choices seemed a little silly, but that might have been influenced by the lame GM. Healing bursts & online subscriptions & draconic PCs? I’ve got no problem with any of that, per se, but it doesn’t really smell like “D&D” to me just yet. Dumbed down for a new generation & wider marketability? More like MMORPGs? Idunno. I’m not sure what to think at this point, but I am usually interested in trying a new gaming system, so I’m sure I’ll buy 4thEd soon enough. My first impression was that it was not what I really wanted in a 4thEd — a radical evolution beyond the days of 3.X with lots of elegant metarules for the GM and a completely revamped & scalable magic system. I hoped to be “wowed” by 4thEd as 3.0 had done. From the little I saw I wasn’t so impressed to need to preorder 4thEd. I think 4th ed will just be different from 3.X, and ‘easier’. Oh well — it will be a fantasy RPG and I will play it. Maybe it’ll grow on me after more playing?

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